Here are some top ineffective ways to “convert,” convince, coerce, cajole or otherwise change gay Christians.
Quote scripture at them. Using, or misusing passages from the Bible bent to suite your purposes does not work! Many of the same verses are used over and over, without the user fully having studied the context or meaning of the text.- Question their salvation. Pretty presumptuous for any human to determine for another their spiritual destiny.
- Lump them in with pedophiles or porn addicts. Baseless and cruel, solely for the purpose of fear mongering.
- Look like you are going to “vomit” when you find out someone you know is gay. I went to a friend’s wedding with a couple other friends (a decade ago, before I “came out”). Afterward, one of them was talking about how much she liked one of the bridesmaids. The other friend looks at her and states: “Duh! She is gay!” And the first friend, no kidding, looked like she was going to vomit! I knew right then, no matter what, I could never “come out” to them… and lost them as friends.
- Call them an “abomination.” You mean like eating shellfish, coming to church with glasses on, or playing football without gloves on “abomination”? Another selective (mis)use of scripture (more at this link).
- Use the “sinners aren’t going to heaven” argument against them. What about: “there are NONE righteous” and “ALL have sinned”? (Ro. 3:10 & 23). A Christian is only saved by grace and faith. Name one single person that attacks LGBT individuals who is not a “sinner.”
- Telling them their love is a “counterfeit.” Really? How? And don’t say because “gay couples cannot (naturally) conceive children from their union.”
- Telling them they are not good (or even “fit”) parents. It is not true, and it will only push them farther away from anyone or anything like the person attacking their parental nature!
- Label them “reprobate” or aberrant. This is definitely not how to “win friends and influence people”! I know those trying to “convert” gays are not trying to “make friends” but seriously, this is not at all an effective influence tool.
- Make fun of what they wear. Or any other generalizations, or general name calling.
- Use shame.
- Use condemnation.
- Tell them that their “lifestyle” is unacceptable. What is all this about “lifestyle”? What is so different about what “I do” than “you do”? I work, feed my kids, pay my bills, go to church, go to the grocery store, help in my community (more at this link).
- Treat them like “lepers.” It was my first day in Grad school, so I was just taking it all in. It was ethics class. There was a very large couple sitting amongst the students. When talking about various individuals one might encounter and have an ethical obligation to, the gay population came up. The couple then said in concert together: “I could never counsel THOSE people!” How sad! Definitely not a “WWJD?” perspective, but unfortunately, all to common amongst Christians and their gut reaction to gay persons.
- Telling them “If God doesn’t judge you people, He will have to apologize to Sodom.” I have heard it said: “People don’t know what the Bible says about homosexuality, they only know what they have been TOLD that the Bible says about it.” Why is it, that of all the things mentioned in the Bible, this is THE one that is at the top of their worst “sin” list? I heard a professor answer a class that was clamoring about “gay marriage” with a question to them. What is the ratio in the Bible of number of times “homosexuality” (or references to it) is mentioned vs. the number of references to how God expects us to treat the poor? Silence, then some guesses. 7 to 1? 10 to 1? No, he answered: “700 to 1. So until we get it right as far as how God expects us to treat the poor, I have no right to condemn gay people.”
- Withdraw relationship/fellowship from a person. You will be “rid” of that “sinner” friend or family member that way, but you will not have moved them to “covert”… only moved them to find a more loving and affirming place to hang out.



















Very nice list!
Here, I think, is the core of the issue: speaking anything at all that arises from dogma rather than grace. It seems to me that each item on your list occurs when people react in a knee-jerk dogmatic way, rather than seeking to discover how the abounding love of God might be manifest in ways that transcend our doctrinal structures.
Imagine the smallness of the Church were Paul not to risk sharing the Gospel with the oh-so-unclean and abominable Gentiles! Imagine the smallness of the Church were the Twelve unwilling to rub elbows with the Heathen Unwashed! And imagine the smallness of the Church were Jesus unwilling to dine with and love on those the religious respectful and doctrinally correct were unable to see as loved, significant, and image-bearers of God.
Once we consider the awe-ful love of God and risk the terrifying positon of acting from this love, instead of from our easy to manage doctrinal status quo, such judgmentalisms fall away in the humility that arises.
Blessings in Christ!
Bon
Very well said. Wonderful post
Excellent post! All we were called to do is love people and tell them about Jesus, oh and also love people, did I mention we were meant to love?
Hi Bon, I really couldn’t say that any better. Thank you for adding those important thoughts!
wvhill… Thank you!
meridith, thank you for dropping in… point well made on “love”! That is after all the “new commandment” isn’t it?
Man, if I didn’t know any better I’d think that you
were talking about this dumbass security guard
at work. He thinks that his way is the only way
and that homosexuality is wrong and a choose
and I asked him if he choose to be hetro and he
said ‘No, I was born this way.’ HA! I’ve knocked
him off his ladder so many times.
It’s just funny how one book has such power.
It was written by man to scare man.
HUGS!!!!!! And may you know that I wish you
all the happiness you can handle and more.
Hey Laurie! So good to have you back!
{HUGS}.
{HUGS}!!
Good for you standing up to that man for what you believe in! That is so cool about you… you stand up for what you think… no matter what others think.
I hear you on the “fear factor”… it has taken me years to find a way–somehow–to make peace with my faith, and to go beyond what men wrote/write and men say with the intent to intimidate.
Thank you Laurie! I appreciate that! And I wish you just as much happiness!
Thanks for this list. This is a really helpful way of approaching these tired arguments, turning the conversation around back at them. It seems like so many heterosexists don’t realize how redundant they all are. Occasionally, their tactics may work, but most of us remain far from convinced. It’s great to have a list that just disarms all those standards barbs at once.
love the link with the bible verses
[...] July 10, 2008 I was visiting over at Burning Bridges and her latest post is a wonderful example of What not to do. Even if people are acting out of love, what you say and how you say it is important. Check her thoughts out http://bridgeout.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/top-ineffective-ways-to-convert-gay-christians/. [...]
I just want to send you a heart felt congrats. You made my e-mail in box. A spot held for just the best posts out there.
C
Brethren Priestess: You’re welcome! The arguments are “tired and redundant”… and more importantly, painful. These “ways” were in response to things I have personally heard… more than once!
Thanks queerunity! I think it is helpful for people to see for themselves.
wvhillcountry: Thank you for sharing this post!
lesbiansaidwhat: Hey C! SWEET!! Thanks for lettin’ me know!
Thank you